2760 meters declared by the production and 2720 meters verified by censors after some scenes were shortened to get a T (ALL) rating. Film length before cuts, 2745 meters (approximately 100m20s).
For Ben and Charlie it should also be noted that the opening and closing credits in yellow lettering are redone.
Bringing this back up, I would like to know more about the exact differences between the international cut (113min according to the BluRay back cover) and the Italian theatrical cut (108min)⦠I tend to watch longer versions wherever I can but I wonder where the differences are exactly
108 minutes is a PAL runtime, equivalent to 113. The original Italian version was 118 minutes long (no age restriction and no edits), this is confirmed by the censorship certificate but for the moment the differences are not known.
As an example letās see the case of Anche gli angeli mangiano fagioli, released in early 1973, with Gemma joined by Bud Spencer and directed by E.B.Clucher
The Avo Film DVD released in 2003 runs 102 minutes PAL (just like the old VHS releases), the Italian TV version broadcast in those years 116 minutes PAL. In 2004 Avo, because of the protests, released the original 127 minutes (24fps) version uncut.
International Version on BluRay, which I just watched 112:12
Italian theatrical cut on BluRay: 107:53
all according to the player⦠would have to watch them side by side to make out the differences
Didnāt see the US Theatrical poster in the DB, so hereās a photo of the poster from my wall. Touched it up a bit but its an old photo and I should probably do a higher quality one⦠this poster is huge tho and a PIA to take down
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I watched the German Blu Ray. First time I have got one of those media books. It offered Eng, German and Italian language and English subtitles for foreign language (first time I had this on a German DVD) although the subtitles were the English dialogue and not a translation of the Italian. I decided to watch in Italian with Eng subs as no English speaking actors in the cast but they were all mouthing English which made experience a little odd. Had soundtrack on nice and loud.
Not having seen this before, I thought this was very like the previous two Gemma comedy westerns, And for a Sky a Roof Full of Stars and Alive or Preferably Dead. All 3 films feature Gemma as a confidence trickster with an unwilling partner who gets pissed off with Gemmaās activities. And all end the same way.
However, I preferred this to the other two. The first half was familiar comic stuff but the second half veered into more serious territory and had a great villain character (the bald guy) whom I hadnāt seen before. Aldo Sambrell, uncredited, was also a very vicious crooked sheriff. I assume itās Sergio Donati making the difference here with some Few Dollars More references and the more serious stuff. I like the āhippieā song a lot as well. I thought Lupo directed it really well and there were a lot of very ācrowdedā scenes with attention to costumes and props and the photography was great too. Marissa Mell was wasted though and you could have snipped her role out with no narrative loss.
It looked like theyād reshot the ending - someone commented above about the abrupt transition to the desert from being chased by the posse - and I know Eastman complained about that.
But I did like this much more than the previous too similar Gemma movies. And the Blu Ray is great.
Oh, Iām sure you have ⦠Luciano Catenacci appears in tons of genre films of this period, though he does look particularly striking with his dog collar in this one. Youāll be spotting him all over the place from now on.