Alive or Preferably Dead / Vivi o preferibilmente morti (Duccio Tessari, 1969)

[stanton]

Maybe not that properly. I think that 1,66:1 is the correct aspect ratio.

1,66:1 films are meanwhile very often masked to 1,85:1 to fit the 16:9 TV standard.

[JonathanCorbett]

Curious association aided by the presence of the glass of orange juice…

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[Carlos]

I actually liked it this time a little more as I previously had it rated as one of the worst. The cast is fine and I always can enjoy me some Wilder Bothers harmonies. The impressive stunt work however is marred by some horrific horse falls that are quite disturbing.

José Canalejas and Luis Barboo as sharp shooting Texas Rangers

Captain Ranger ? and Ranger Dan van Husen

Bad Jim henchmen Joaquin Parra and Alvaro de Luna

Bad Jim Henchmen including Simón Arriaga

Rafael Albaicín, train passenger seen observing and taking notes

Pasting images seems to work

[AvatarDK]

@Carlos

Pasting images seems to work

Yes it seems the new forum maintains it own cache of images so if you e.g. paste in the url for a given image, that image will be downloaded so even if the image url becomes invalid it will still show properly in here. Pretty smart.

[scherpschutter]

Pretty smart

[JonathanCorbett]

@stanton

It is a Panoramico film, and that means 1,66:1, which was in the 60s an often used widescreen aspect ratio in Europe.

Excerpt from the American Widescreen Museum Glossary, section concerning Miscellaneous and non-existent formats:

[stanton]

Actually I still don’t understand this Panoramico thing, now less than ever. I thought it meant films shot in 1,66:1, but it seems that most of the Spags were shot in 1,85:1, but it also seems nobody knows for sure.

There was someone who said Panoramico was an anamorphic widescreen format in early silent film times, but that at least has nothing to do with all these non anamorphic SWs.

Jonathan may check this: SCHERMO PANORAMICO, CHE EMOZIONE! I formati

[JonathanCorbett]

@stanton

There was someone who said Panoramico was an anamorphic widescreen format in early silent film times, but that at least has nothing to do with all these non anamorphic SWs

Yes, the above-mentioned Glossary lists also an existing format named Panoramico Alberini (AR 2,52:1), an inter-war period thing:

[stanton]

Ok, but it is spherical 70 mm film, not anamorph 35 mm

[JonathanCorbett]

@Carlos

Captain Ranger ? and Ranger Dan van Husen

It’s Pasquale Simeoli a.k.a. Lino Desmond (see Zorro films thread, Reply#92).

[Admin (Sebastian)]

Both the version on RaiHD as well as the new Explosive BluRaz are 1;33:1 by the way. My vote is for open matte… still a bit of a bummer, I hate 4:3

[LooneyElmerFudd (Wilco Vedder)]

It is on Dutch Netflix at the moment. Not my piece of cake I found out. Could not watch in in 1 sit but did it in chunks of 20 minutes.
Most about the movie is said in this thread. For a comedy movie the horses had to suffer a lot and a note at the end about not harming animals would be appropriate. Stuntwork is indeed great but distracts from the plot.

By the way, hard to search title in the Forum when the commas are used and the wrong Vivo in stead of Vivi is used (what is the difference by the way). This mistake is more common I saw on the net.

[Admin (Sebastian)]

@LooneyElmerFudd

By the way, hard to search title in the Forum when the commas are used and the wrong Vivo in stead of Vivi is used (what is the difference by the way). This mistake is more common I saw on the net.

But we do use Vivi, where do we use vivo with this title? Vivi o, preferibilmente, morti - The Spaghetti Western Database
The difference is Vivo=I live, vivi=alive

[LooneyElmerFudd (Wilco Vedder)]

Hey, I said on the net, not on this forum

I searched the database on Gemma, looked for the right title and the copy / pasted it in the search box after I found out that the title is misspelled around the internet (rotten tomatoes for example but there are more)

[Admin (Sebastian)]

@LooneyElmerFudd

By the way, hard to search title in the Forum

I misunderstood that then… but the SWDb is full of mistakes, we need sharp eyes to spot and fix them

But the search of the SWDb is a problem, it will be fixed at some point in the future

[Mickey13]

Copied from the Spagvemberfest 2022 thread:

@Mickey13

The opening scene is really unlike anything else in the history of the genre and I have to say I cherish it very much; while the rest of the film doesn’t pan out quite as well, it still has plenty of charm and is considerably more enjoyable and well-rounded than other Italian western comedies of its time, not to mention some of the trainwrecks of the seventies. The reason why it seems to work better than expected is probably due to the satisfactory chemistry between Gemma and Benvenuti, who turns in a surprisingly good performance for a non-professional actor.

Secondly, the comedy prioritizes the comedic quirk and the buddy element at the expense of slapstick and action which in turn greatly benefits the overall plot development and flow of the narrative. The approach calls for a bit more sophisticated writing and though it doesn’t live up to genre’s loftiest standards, at the very least it furnishes an acceptable tale packed with just enough old-school thrills and corny skits to make for an enjoyable viewing. The fisticuffs do come along eventually, but they look exceptionally well in virtue of Benvenuti’s strong punches. Not a classic by any stretch of the imagination and more of a comedy than a western, but hardly a disaster either and definitely diverting in its own right despite being pretty episodic throughout, could have been even better with a stronger script.

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