[quote=“p.pereira, post:20, topic:962”]Well, I understand that this Americanized movies keep away most of the spaghetti fans, but I kind of like this one.
Just ordered the Thai edition (Triple X Film). It will be my first buy from them, don’t know exactly how good are their releases, but the price seems fair.[/quote]
Let us know how it is.
I have Arizona Colt from Triple XXX (no English audio, only Italian): excellent image quality and loud 5.1 sound. But I wouldn’t expect too much from that surround track: it’s clearly fake, they used the front speakers for the actual soundtrack and added some noises for the rear speakers, such as hoof beats etc. I found that quite amusing, but it occasionally leads to very odd echoes.
Its good the triple X DVD, seems like its the correct aspect ratio 2.35:1. But I find this film hard to get through, a bit of a lame SW, though there is a surprising violent moment. It might be the english dub, I think the Italian dub would be much better.
I wasn’t bored, even thought it was quite likable, but it’s a typical early outing, with a reduced SW factor, it’s still rather classic in feel, but (like chuck connor’s brother says) with some grittiness shining through here and there
The Italian audio is fine.
I’ve never heard the English dub, so I can’t compare
There’s one line in the Italian audio that I always experienced as typically Italian (and a bit odd in the historical context of the West):
When Gemma arrives in town, he’s accused of stealing cattle and the people want to lynch him; he frees himself and shoots the man who accused him in the first place (the original owner of the cattle). The the man’s wife kneels down at the side of her husband’s dead body and cries (looking up):
“Vendicate mi”
Literally: “Revenge me”, in more common English something like: “Take revenge in my name” It’s an appeal, a supplication, directed at the townspeople (it’s plural). I know justice was quite direct in the Old West, and the old biblical principle of an ‘eye for an eye’ was en vogue, but I would’ve thought it was more logical for her to say something like “Hang him”, or “Track him down”
… but I would’ve thought it was more logical for her to say something like “Hang him”, or “Track him down”
So I wonder what she says in the English dub[/quote]
When she’s snivelling over the body she bangs on about him killing for afew miserable head of cattle and she finishes with "You can’t let him get away."
Then it’s the hatched-faced old bag that says "String him up!"
After he does get away, wifey bleats "I’ll offer a bounty to see that he’s captured - I want Landers hunted down in every state of the Union."
There you go scherp.
[quote=“Reverend Danite, post:27, topic:962”]When she’s snivelling over the body she bangs on about him killing for afew miserable head of cattle and she finishes with "You can’t let him get away."
Then it’s the hatched-faced old bag that says "String him up!"
After he does get away, wifey bleats "I’ll offer a bounty to see that he’s captured - I want Landers hunted down in every state of the Union."
There you go scherp.[/quote]
Thanks
I’ll check later what she says in Italian after Gemma got away. I suppose it’s something similar.
But it’s a very nice detail that a woman uses the verb ‘vendicare’ immediately. In other words: she’s thinking more in terms of vengeance than of justice.
The idea of the town taking revenge for, or in name of the woman, is emphasized when one of the older women says:
“Vendichiamo la”
Literally: Let’s revenge her, so: Let us take revenge in her name
This all makes sense if you consider the different conceptions of the ‘community’ (represented in westerns by the town). In the West the towns were growing communities, a person could be a stranger, but he wasn’t an intruder per se: he could become a member of the growing community relatively easily. In the Italian westerns, the town is often seen as a hostile, ‘closed’ community, symbolizing the clan & family mentality of the Italian culture. It’s not easy to become a member of such a community, a stranger is by definition an intruder. Therefore: when one member of such a community/clan is bleeding, the entire community/clan is bleeding, and justice is -literally - defined in terms of vengeance: "“Vendicate mi” “Let us take revenge in her name”
Here are two screens of the Italian disc
It’s non-anamorphic, but otherwise surprisingly good; colours are warm and the image is rather clean; the only problem seems that the image seems a bit squeezed vertically on the extreme left:
Here’s the same shots from the NEW disc. Similar - just a tad more image on the left (a bit more of the fellah in the first, and a bit more building in the second - obviously highly important to the story though ;D).
(It’s my computer that squeezes the images widthwise - it’s actually wider looking on the tv).
The new disc is anamorphic and (understandably) sharper. Contrast rates also seem a bit higher, which will be noticeable especially during darker scenes (compare the second screens)
saw this last night and would agree that it is not much like a spaghetti western, but is still a watchable, entertaining film. have not seen all of gemma’s westerns but i have seen most of them and haven’t seen a bad one yet in my opinon,in fact most are good.always good value, this one isn’t the best but is competent enough 6/10.
[quote=“LankyFellow, post:34, topic:962”]Agreed,i saw them all,Gemma is one of my favorite spag actors.
Actually the only bad one is ‘White,yellow,black’
‘Tex and the lord of the deep’ not really counts for me,it was made to late and moreover a comic picturization
All the others i enjoyed very much,maybe ‘Alive or preferably dead’ is a bit weaker than the other ones[/quote]haven’t seen |"white, yellow, black " or "tex & the lord of the deep"but have seen “Alive Or Preferably Dead” and would agree is the weakest so far.
[quote=“LankyFellow, post:34, topic:962”]Agreed,i saw them all,Gemma is one of my favorite spag actors.
Actually the only bad one is ‘White,yellow,black’[/quote]
And to be fair, Gemma is fine in that. It is Milian’s character that sends it off the good taste scale.
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