World Cup 2014 - Brazil

Most younger players are from the Feyenoord-school, not the famous Ajax school.
Unfortunately Van Gaal left this year’s Ajax breakthrough player Davy Klaassen at home. Don’t understand why. Apart from Depay (PSV-school btw) he’s the biggest talent:

Anyone remember the 1998 Brazil vs Norway penalty? None of the angles from cameras had any kind of evidence of any foul by the Brazilian player and it was so obvious the referee made a mistake. Until (36 hours later? http://www.canoe.ca/SoccerWCNews/jul10_ref.html) this came out:

You would think something like that would have been visible in the official camera angles but it wasn’t.

As for this new case, who knows. :wink: The gif here doesn’t show what the left hand does and the replays I have watched look like the Croatian player might actually hold on to Fred’s left sleeve (in two different angles [only for a frame or two] the sleeve looks like it might react to a hand holding/pulling it or more like letting it go).
Not saying Fred didn’t dive (or slip :wink: ).

Oh, ye of little faith, Mr. Scherp. ;D

Hummm, I’m starting to believe that Mourinho was right about Casillas

YESSSSSS

[size=36pt]UNA MANITA[/size]

AHAHA

And I was right, it didn’t happen. It was “only” 1-5. ;D

If Spain comes back (but will they come back?) the game Brazil - Spain in the round of 16 lurks around the corner.

Fantastic evening for Holland …

I’ve already said it elsewhere: I’m speechless. It doesn’t happen very often, but this is truly amazing. I literally said things to myself like: Is this really happening?

I wonder if Spain will recover from this blow. They still have great players but they were all over the place in the second half. They need to replace Casillas and I think they better bring David Villa; he’s no longer the great player he used to be, but this guy (from Atletico) they had up-front, doesn’t fit into the Spanish game at all.

Holland now must concentrate on the next game, remain focussed (always difficult after such a game, and Australia is not as inspiring as an opponent as the world champion).

But right now I’m a happy man (along with 15,000,000 other Dutchemen)

Ah, you’ll get the hang of this football lark soon enough Scherpers. Remember, first thing you need to know: Holland = pretty bloody good at football. :wink:

Una manita …

Electrifying performance by Holland… Spain’s not recovering enough to avoid being somebody else’s whipping-boy.

Well the Word cup has been quite entertaining so far. Some of the worst ref work I’ve seen in years, today Mexico’s Camarões was incredible bad, with some incomprehensible decisions, even in the Span Holland game the penalty was clearly forced and one of the Dutch goals was precedeed by a clear fault over casillas. I’ve read news tat Interpol is seding a team to Brazil because of suspicions of fixed results.
Great result for Holland some great goals, and most important the possibility of avoiding Brazil in the knock out stages. I don’t think Spain is finished but Del Bosque will have a lot to work in moral terms.

I don’t think its the system to blame for such a blow, they have won one world cup (where they also lost the first game), and two euro cups with the actual system, and their youth teams are still winning. The problem are the players, old and tired (mostly Xavi and Pique), what is Torres doing in this team, Ramos is a overrated palyer (having Pepe or Varene on his side is totally different). And if you take a look at the bench there’s no way they play Tiki Taka style with those players, they could only play Atletico Madrid style.
Apart from that there’s a Bruno Martins in the Dutch squad, since when are they picking Portuguese players, we want a Van something in exchange :slight_smile:

I still think that Spain will qualify out of the group (provided the nature of their drubbing tonight doesn’t cause them to panic), but they’re almost certainly going to face Brazil in the last 16. Either the hosts or the champions are going home way too early. Out of concern that those demonstrations will swell to full-blown riots if Brazil’s interest in the tournament ends with 15 fixtures and 15 days still to go, I hope the Brazilians finish Spain off (despite tonight, I still think Spain are too good for Brazil without a generous helping of “Home Cooking” from the ref/linesmen).

It would do Brazil a favour if Spain were to have a crisis of confidence now, slip up to Chile (far from a pushover) and fail to qualify out of their group. These things happen. Look at Italy; won it in 06, finished bottom of their group without a win in 2010.

Right - Today, I reckon:

Colombia 2-0 Greece
Uruguay 3-0 Costa Rica
England 1-1 Italy

My recepy for today

Colombia 1-2 Greece
Uruguay 2-0 Costa Rica
England 1-0 Italy
Cote d’ivoire - Japan 2-1 (It’s tomorrow by Greenwich time, but it’s less five hours in Brazil)

My predictions:

Colombia - Greece 2-1
Uruguay - Costa Rica 1-0
England - Italy 1-1
Ivory Coast - Japan 2-3

GO ORANJE !!! What an exellent win !!! Shut down the Spaniards ;D !!!

Netherlands V Spain, I doubt we’ll see another match as exciting in the group stages.

Maybe England’s young team achieves a similar surprise.

England seems to have a similar mix of very experienced players and younger talents. But Lampard is 36 and Gerrard is 34.

I find it difficult to choose between England and Italy tonight. Usually both countries have my sympathy, Italy because I love the country and its culture and England because I love the country and its culture …

… I think I’ll go for England because Holland and England have so much in common:

  • We both have only one title, '66 (them), '88 (us)
  • They invented football, we invented total football
  • We are both hopeless when it comes down to penalty shootouts