The Last Western You Watched? ver.2.0

Of course, tastes change over the years, but for The Stalking Moon I was surprised, cause I had watched that one more than once.

The other way round I enjoyed in the last years some classics like Rio Bravo or The Searchers more than before. I mean Rio Bravo was always a great one, but now I saw stylistic touches
I never noticed before. So, apart from taste we also sharpen our perception of films. Some lose by that, some win.

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A different western. A realistic western.
Will Penny with Charlton Heston.
Kino Lorber Blu-ray

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“Four Fast Guns” With Montgomery Ford

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Young Guns USA 1988.

At the end of the 1980s, there were several attempts to revive the western. Young Guns is a classic revenge story with a cast of young actors who were very well-known at the time.

Farmer John Tunstall (Terence Stamp) takes young drifters under his wing to educate them and give them work. His protĂ©gĂ©s are the hotshot William H. Bonney (Emilio Estevez), the poet Josiah Gordon ‘Doc’ Scurlock (Kiefer Sutherland), the level-headed Richard Brewer (Charlie Sheen), the Mexican Indian Jose Chavez (Lou Diamond Phillips), the somewhat timid Charley Bowdre (Casey Siemaszko) and Dirty Steve Stephens (Dermot Mulroney). Tunstall has the problem of every honest farmer: dishonest competition. It comes in the form of shady cattle baron Lawrence G. Murphy (Jack Palance), who wants to force John to sell his farm. John and his young gunslingers refuse, of course, but Murphy has his competitor driven into the ground by a corrupt sheriff and equally corrupt deputies. This gives us the ever-popular reason for our heroes to start their vendetta.

This movie was very successful in Germany and enjoys cult status today.

2 years later there was a sequel with Young Guns2 Blaze of Glory.

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I love both of the ‘Young Guns’ films
rollicking good entertainment!

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Last night, I treated myself to Steve McQueen’s penultimate film
the excellent ‘Tom Horn’ (1980).

I have always loved this Western, which carries with it a huge dose of poignancy, because McQueen would die of cancer a short while after - his last film being ‘The Hunter’, in which he was teamed up again with his ‘Magnificent Seven’ (1960) co-star, Eli Wallach.

Although ravaged by the effects of battling his illness, I think that Steve gives a heart-felt, sterling performance here; and I believe that it was his own personal love letter to the genre that helped enormously to kick-start his relatively brief, yet memorable career.

When I attended the ‘Leone Exhibition’ at the Autry Museum, Los Angeles, in 2005, I checked out the movie memorabilia on display from other Western films and TV series. One of the outfits was the costume used by Steve in ‘Tom Horn’


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I think you are wrong about that.
It seems it was a total flop theatrically. There are no data on Inside Kino, so it most likely sold beneath 100 000 tickets, maybe way beneath, I wanted to watch it theatrically, but it wasn’t shown in any theatre nearby.

Also not sure if it became a cult film since then, at least not amongst the film fans I know.

Actually apart from Dances with Wolves no western was successful in the 80s and 90s in Germany. Not even Unforgiven compared to other countries.

In cinema? Maybe. In my memory after more than 35 years, there was a waiting list for the video cassette in the video store back then, many films in the 80s and 90s were often a hit on video first. I agree with you that cult film status is debatable.

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Part 3 of Young guns is in progress as I understood

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If this is the case, then hopefully with the same actors. But the name of the movie would then have to be “old guns”. :cowboy_hat_face:

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In that case it could easily be titled, ‘Much more talented famous father Guns’ ?

I saw the first movie in the cinema on original release and really didn’t enjoy the Hollywood brat pack playing cowboy 
 not one of the them has the charm or ability to play leading man roles. Very disappointing at the time, as there hadn’t been western movies on the big screen for many years.

:grimacing:

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Well, Young guns 3: Dead or alive" is with Emilio Estevez (wo will also direct), Lou Diamond Phillips and Christian Slater are also confirmed.
Kiefer Sutherland was killed in part 2 so his return is not expected
John Bon Jovi would also be involved

It is not a movie which I would attend at the cinema. Part 1 and 2 I have rented on Video and the occasional television broadcast. Nice pass of time but if i missed it, no big deal.

I would probably watch it if is streamed

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I’m currently watching ‘a reason to live a reason to die’ on the uk freeview channel 42 great! action. We are so fortunate at the moment to have so many westerns on UK television at the moment. Somedays there can be as many as 12 in one day across the freeview channels. Trinity was on last week too, I see more westerns and spaghetti westerns these days than I did in the 70s!

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Arizona Colt. Explosive Media Blu-ray.
Pretty violent from time to time.
Almost 2 hours long but it never dragged.
The costumes looked a little bit too clean, not the SW-dirty look.
Made by Michele Lupo who also made the great California.
Good movie.

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The Lucky Texan - 5/10
Cjamango - 6/10
Breakheart Pass - 6/10
Blue Steel - 5/10
The Man From Utah - 3/10
Stranger on Horseback - 6/10
Western Union - 7/10
Bad Man’s River - 3/10
Savate - 4/10
Hate Thy Neighbor - 6/10
Der letzte Mohikaner - 5/10
Great Treasure Hunt - 5/10

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I gorged myself on two of my favourite Spaghetti Western dishes last night



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The Scalphunters. Not really great I think.
The Naked Spur. Mann made better films.

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I watched the ‘Arrow’ Bluray International version (2.41 R.T.) of this beauty today, accompanied by the extremely well informed audio commentary by Tim Lucas. There was just one criticism of the commentary, Tim claims at one point that Clint Eastwood’s character did not use just one poncho/serape in the three films. His argument being that because the poncho changed colour from film to film, that duplicate copies with the same pattern were used.

In my humble opinion, this is bollocks, because in both ‘FAFDM’ and ‘GBU’, the bullet holes from the end of ‘Fistful of Dollars’ (now stitched up), can clearly be seen. Eastwood, himself, has stated on many occasions that only one serape was ever used, and was never cleaned

However, that is a small gripe for what is an otherwise wonderful A.C.

Ultimately - and more to the point - whether viewed in the International or Extended version (I love both), this film rocks, big time
! It is breath-taking and beautiful on an epic scale.

Thank you, ‘Arrow’, yet again, for investing so much time and effort in to presenting the ‘Dollars’ Trilogy in the best way possible

Thanks to you, my love affair with these three milestones in cinema history (which began 49 years ago) has begun all over again


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Chris Frayling also said there was only ever one poncho.

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Agreed 
 you’d think that film ‘experts’ would do a little more homework on their commentary tracks 
 and it’s a bit of a major gaffe when you’re talking about, ‘the poncho’ 
 Olive green can look a bit murky brown depending on lighting conditions and film processing etc.

I’m with Toscano and Clint on this one 


:wink:

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