Did anyone who owns the US blu-ray take a look at the āColumbia Pictures Editing Memoā that was apparently included as an extra? Iām curious if it had anything justifying the cuts like the bizarre decision to shorten the finale with Cuchillo in the cane fields.
The full Italian version is 110 mins long. This is included in the grindhouse set you get 2 Blu Rays a DVD and the soundtrack! Thereās advantages and disadvantages as you get the extra scenes but you donāt get Lee Van Cleefās voice like you do in the American version, but both are included so depends what you feel like
E sempreee, per sempreee, tu sempreee cercheraaaaai!
What is the Columbia pictures editing memo like? Anything interesting?
Itās a letter from Harvey Kagan to Ed Humenik from March 4th 1969 and details cuts that were made and goes through the reels, measurements and total footage eliminated. It explains how it should be shown on television as well so all very technical. The cutting to the chase feature, bullet points all of the scenes that were taken out. There are 50 listed in total including musical changes.
One of these days Iāll watch this anti-Nieves āStantonās Cutā, that in my opinion cannot be proposed, to find out who is rightā¦
Thanks for letting me know. That sounds really interesting.
I didnāt buy the US release because I have the Explosive Media one which I prefer for the English audio on the uncut version (give or take a few parts in Italian). I canāt really justify double-dipping however, given how many times I have bought this film before.
No problem. Itās proper geek territory, but still interesting. The only thing really missing from the set is a rundown of what Tomas Milian had for breakfast every morning while filming . Nice to have extra features but the film is the main thing and as you say itās costly to keep upgrading.
Thatās just the problem because it is not really upgrading at all since they only have Italian audio for the uncut version without an English option; the picture quality is apparently slightly different but no better and arguably worse. Then again, a couple of nice extras does sweeten the dealā¦
In terms of the German release, it was great to see the old interviews with Sollima from the Koch Media boxset with English subtitles. However, for some reason, they cut the interview after Face to Face so it is missing the Run Man Run section at the end
Did anyone else not greatly appreciate this film until they saw the 110min Italian cut?
To be honest I only got to see this film for the first time about 10 years ago and that was the Italian cut so that is the only cut Iāve ever watched since.
Iām not sure. Is the US cut the 90 minute or so version? If so Iāve never seen it. I have a DVD-R with English dubbing, but Italian audio for a few scenes and moments of dialogue that were initially cut out. Iām pretty sure itās the Italian one (if someone could correct me if Iām wrong itād be greatly appreciated) and itās near-perfect the way it is so I donāt plan on watching any other version, least not a cut one.
Yep, although thanks to Grindhouse it was extended to 95 minutes with the two restored monk scenes. But of course itās still missing about 15 minutes from the Italian cut. And that is not cool.
I was going to get that DVD when it first came out but the Italian version only had Italian audio so I didnāt bother. This is undoubtedly my favourite spaghetti western (possibly even my favourite western) not directed by Leone, and is one of only four spags that I think can compete with his best work. Without Lee Van Cleefās dub in the full length version though I decided to stick with my DVDR, even if the picture quality isnāt as good.
Surprised thereās no fandubs of the Grindhouse Blu-ray. I didnāt watch the Italian cut because I wanted to hear Van Cleefās and Milianās real voices. Even if it is cut, itās number 5 on my top 20 based on the 95 minute cut alone.
Why donāt you just buy the German Blu-ray which is as good (some say better) than the US Blu-ray and with the English dub (albeit a few subtitled areas where no English dub exists) - see a few posts up. Or are you region-A locked?
Iāll probably get the German Blu-ray. Shame thereās some missing footage during the climax.
As I posted several years back, the US English language ācutā version does have a really egregious cut in the finale. Whatās missing from the German Blu-ray? Itās supposed to be uncut.
Itās not Milianās voice in either Italian or English unfortunately. They werenāt letting him dub himself in either language at this early stage in his SW careerā¦
Itās weird that whoever dubbed him sounds very much like him anyway.