Does this work for you?
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Know Iām a bit late but Iād be up for this. Wouldnāt want to drag anyone there but if others here are already going Iād be happy to tag along.
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So for each location (e.g. Manzanares el real) we should have a little page that can be linked to. And that page should have descriptions, links to further info, instructions on how to get to it, info on which movies it was used in, a picture and a map, at the least.
E.g. Cortijo del Fraile - The Spaghetti Western Database but this is just the bar minimum I think. More ideas? We should also make it pretty, maybe offer a .gpx download for the coordinates and use some pictogram/icons etc and make all location pages in the same format / structure. We can then put them all on a big map (I will figure something out).
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@Rayo you are among the location savvy fellas, what do you think how we could best implement it in the database?
On this topic, I have started again to add locations/ photos to the movie pages, at a slow rate.
The top 10 SW movies are complete.
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Thanks, 
I like your idea.
Having a page linked to each location associated with the movie on its main page.
I think each location page is always going to be a work in progress.
As more information for that particular location is collected.
A lot of the location verification. Lets say for siteseeing.
Weāre going to need to get boots on the ground.
That way if people are interested in visiting these sites. We know coordinates.
The idea of people actually visiting some of the locations still in existence today sounds fun.
Could make for a fun travel itinerary.
Having a page linked to each location associated with the movie on its main page is a great start.
One idea, I think would be helpful.
Once you click on the location page. There should be a āPictures From The Moviesā section.
Where different screenshots of that movie location could be found.
The title of the movie, and year should be attached to each picture.
Since sets or sites often changed throughout the years or movie to movie.
That could get picture heavy.
One other thing.
There should be a forum section for ālocationsā. Then a forum subsection for each location.
Members can submit the location information there.
As the information comes in. You can update the main location page when possible.
Once the forum subsections for each location are created.
I will start submitting screenshots of movie locations.
Hi, Iāve read about this future improvement in the latest recap and I think it is a fantastic idea; to some extent I am sure some of us are already managing their locations list. Iām doing it for the Italian sites around Rome.
In my opinion, showing points on the map and downloading GPX are not the main issue. There are several open source solutions easy to integrate like Leaflet to create your own maps.
The main point here is identifying the data to be associated with the location and how it relates to the films. If I remember well, in MediaWiki you can create an Infobox which is a synoptic data table compilable by the editors.
Infobox can be associated with a template (for example āLocationā) which specifies how the page is displayed. The page will be automatically built using the Infobox data. I assume you are already adopting this solution in SWDB.
This way all pages are identical and all mandatory data must be entered. There is also no risk of altering the page rendering by mistake while editing.
My personal suggestion for main data is the following:
- Unique name
- Main photo
- Address (where applicable)
- Latitude
- Longitude
- Description
- Foto gallery
I have no clue at the moment on how to create an āautomaticā relation with movies.
In the first instance the film-location relation can certainly be done with the Categories, as suggested.
To complete the information, it would be optimal to have at least a location photo, year and title for each known movie related to the location itself.
Maybe a nested list of second level infobox (location in movie) could solve the problem.
Although I donāt have much time available I will be more than happy to lend a hand.
Hi Seb,
I have been looking at location pages, now that many of the SWās have location info included.
In the Category: Locations - Pages section, I see that there is already some good work done.
The page āCortijo del Fraileā seems to be the most advanced and could be copied to other page locations (San Jose might be a better location page name as this can cover Monsul beach, Cortijo el Romeral etc.).
When adding location info to the SW pages, I tried to keep the locations somewhat generic e.g. Manziana, which covers several specific locations. I still ended up with 50+ locations (Spain, Italy) which would need the same number of location pages. I think this is manageable.
Anyway, I would like to start editing a few location pages and see how it goes.
How do I create a new location page? e.g. I would like one for Manzanares el Real.
Thanks,
Iāll think about it.
Hi
so the easiest is to link to the page you want to create from somewhere else, like put a [[Manzanares el Real]] somewhere. That link will of course not work, but clicking on it will let you create the page.
As for the aspect you mentioned: I think we should be as specific as possible where it makes sense, like Monsul Beach can have its own, because thatās really the location, wheras not sure if anythink was really filmed āinā San Jose, if it wasnt at a specific cortijo etc, and then we just use that. Otherwise we lump in too many locations into one. We can also add both to a movie page, like āSan Jose (Monsul Beach, Cortijo el Sotillo, etā¦)ā and link all these words to the respective pages.
Edit: I saw you tried to embed a google map, thatās currently not possible. We can link to that spot in Google and add a screenshot of the map exerpt. I will work out something more interactive in the future.
Thanks for that.
I tried to embed then add a link to a map - the link seems to work.
I get what you are saying about San Jose. Would you agree that 1 page is enough for each rambla (indalecio, cautivo etc)?
I will play around with a few pages.
if these are distinct places and not just a left or right turn into a canyon in basically the same area (in that case i would set up a page for the area / park / etc)
Anything else needed for the template location page: [[Manzanares el Real]]?
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Hi guys,
I would like to consult on how to best categorize locations on film pages.
I saw a pattern with the city/area name followed by the location, for example āTabernas: location nameā, āRome: location nameā.
Problem is not all the location in Lazio, Italy can be considered Rome even if they are in the province.
For example Manziana, Tolfa, Allumiere, Anzio and Camerata Nuova are pretty far from Rome.
And the name of a town is not a precise location.
I think we should consider something like this:
- Rome: Cava della Magliana
- Rome: Villa Mussolini
- Rome: Corcolle Castle
- Allumiere: Cavone (The canyon is not in Tolfa, at least today)
- Tolfa: ā¦ (Iām still trying to find where the quarry was with the village inside.)
- Manziana: Caldara
- Manziana: Casale della Pietrische
- Manziana: Casale della Cupellara
- Anzio: Tor Caldara
- Camerata Nuova: Camposecco plateau
- Mazzano Romano: Montegelato waterfalls
- Mazzano Romano: Casale la Pietrina
- Mazzano Romano: Le Selce
- Guadagnolo: ā¦
This allows you to clearly identify the city where you are going to look for the location.
I donāt know if this is to much detail for you, the why I am asking.
Another thing that perhaps we should consider for the future, when we have surveyed all the locations, is an aggregation page for each macro area, with a map showing the relative positions of all the locations and the links to detail pages.
In the case of Italy this would be quite easy, apart from Sardinia and the Dolomites and a few others, all the locations are in Lazio and mostly near Rome.
For Spain it would be necessary to understand how to best carry out geographical aggregations, but I think you all have a clear idea of the general picture.
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One main concern has always been precition. Weāre already so much better, but there was a time when it just said āLocation: Almeriaā and that meant all kinds of things 
surely no western was ever filmed in the city itself, haha
I really agree with this overall, but I think its a bit unnecessarily complicatedā¦ simple coordinates would work better imo.
There are 3 sites I found with really good info on Almeria filming locations:
http://y-yasuda.net/film-location.htm
https://www.fistfuloflocations.com/location_maps.html
The last one uses google maps coordinates, which I think is the best way, its simple and fast to doā¦ it would make sense for the SWDB to have its own version of it thatās as comprehensive as possibleā¦ it would require a lot of work tho.
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Duck, You Sucker ! had a scene shot in the city according to IMDb which in this case should be correct : AlmerĆa Railway Station, AlmerĆa, AndalucĆa, Spain (Mesa Verde train station exterior scenes).
However IMDbās statement that the same location was used in For A Few Dollars More surely must be wrong. Interestingly another web site giggster states the same :
"At the movieās beginning, Colonel Douglas Mortimer stops the train he is on illegally outside the small town of Tucumcari. After riding on his horse, he reaches the townās brothel, where he faces Guy Calloway (JosĆ© TerrĆ³n), a wanted criminal. He chases and shoots him, and as a result, earns a bounty of $1,000.
The scene was filmed at AlmerĆa Railway Station in Spain. The station was built in 1893 and retains much of its original charm, including the large clock tower seen in the background during the chase scene."
IMDb though also have the correct location for the railway station La Calahorra, Granada, AndalucĆa, Spain (Tucumcari train station)
IMDb also have the correct location for the Tucumcari town : Hoyo de Manzanares, Madrid, Spain (Town of Tucumcari).
So there could be contradictions if people add different locations for the the same sceneā¦
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The location list that you have looks good. I am following a similar pattern for the location pages that I have created. After talking to Sebastian, it is best to create a separate location page for say the different sites in Manziana, as you have done.
I have only grouped locations into 1 page for places like Hoyo de Manzanares where lots of SWās were shot in a fairly small area.
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Re Almeria City, there are quite a few small scenes shot there in various locations. Will look at this area much later to see the best way to add to a location page - after some of the major locations have been covered.
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