Noir & Neo-Noirs

You sad fucks.

Only kidding - actually, it reminds me I ought to make such a list myself, considering I often forget a lot of the titles I’ve actually seen.

I do it so I can keep track of the good ones and bad ones. And for bragging. ;D

But making movie lists is only slightly less fun than actually watching the damn films themselves! ;D

Yes, there is a certain amount of fun and pride compiling these lists. Since I just finished a Noir (Carol Reed’s Fallen Idol), I’ll show y’all the list now. And they’re all in the order I saw them.

Film Noir I’ve seen: Total-157

Big Combo-5
T-Men-3
Border Incident-4
The Third Man-4
D.O.A-4
Out of the Past-5
Touch of Evil-5
The Narrow Margin-3.5
Nightmare Alley-4
Kansas City Confidential-3.5
The Killing-5
Ace in the Hole-3
Cry of the City-4
Ride the Pink Horse-5
Lady from Shanghai-4
Night and the City-5
Night of the Hunter-5
Fear in the Night-3
The Chase-4
Sweet Smell of Success-4
The Killers-5
Quicksand-1
Jigsaw-4
Somewhere in the Night-5
Blood on the Moon-5
Mystery Street-2
Pursued-5
Act of Violence-4
The Dark Corner-4
Kiss Me Deadly-5
Odd Man Out-4
The Man Between-4
Panic in the Streets-2
The Man Who Cheated Himself-3
The Good German-5
Crimewave-5
The Amazing Mr.X-3.5
Rififi-4
Crack Up-2
Whirlpool-3.5
Stray Dog-4
Sunset Boulevard-4
The Big Sleep-5
Pickup on South Street-3.5
Murder, My Sweet-5
Angel Face-2
Where the Sidewalk Ends-3
The Big Heat-5
The Burglar-4
Moonrise-5
Le Doulos-4
Criss Cross-4
Nightfall-4
Macao-5
Cape Fear-5
In a Lonely Place-2.5
Mr.Arkadin-2.5
Station West-3.5
Journey Into Fear-4
World for Ransom-4
Dark City-4
Blast of Silence-3
The Mask of Dimitrios-4
Pitfall-2.5
Crossfire-5
The Mob-3
The Crooked Way-4
I love Trouble-4
Kiss of Death-3.5
Fallen Angel-3
The Sleeping City-4
The Enforcer-4
Armored Car Robbery-5
Shoot to Kill-1
Shadow Man-4
Naked Alibi-3
The Long Night-2
Dead Reckoning-5
One Way Street-2
Kiss the Blood Off My Hands-4
Double Indemnity-5
City of Fear-3.5
Guilty Bystander-4
I, the Jury-4
Blind Spot-4
The Bribe-5
Red Light-4
On Dangerous Ground-5
The Pretender-2
The Raging Tide-3.5
The Underworld Story-4
Where Danger Lives-5
Screaming Mimi-4
Deadline at Dawn-4
Forbidden-3
The Lady Without Passport-4
Time Table-3
Side Street-5
The Maltese Falcon-3.5
The Hoodlum-1
Underworld U.S.A-3
99 River Street-3
Raw Deal-4
The Set Up-4
Talk About a Stranger-4
The Unsuspected-3
Chinatown-4
Tension-3
The Red House-4
Hollow Triumph-3
The Stranger-4
Trapped-3
Murder by Contract-4
RiffRaff-4
Berlin Express-4
Phantom Lady-3.5
Ministry of Fear-3.5
Hollywood Story-4
The Harder They Fall-4
The Postman Always Rings Twice-3.5
The Stranger on the Third Floor-3
Night Has a Thousand Eyes-4
The Reckless Moment-4
Lonelyhearts-4
Mirage-4
The Verdict-4
While the City Sleeps-3.5
Farewell, My Lovely-4
The Long Goodbye-3
He Ran All the Way-3
L.A. Confidential-5
Shutter Island-4
The Black Dahlia-3
Carnivale-5
Body Heat-3.5
Decoy-1
Scandal Sheet-3.5
They Live by Night-3
Body and Soul-4
Alias Nick Beal-3
Caught-2
Scarlet Street-3
5 Against the House-3.5
Party Girl-4
Roadblock-3.5
Born to Kill-2
The Long Wait-3.5
The Killer is Loose-3
Force of Evil-4
Thieve’s Highway-3
Railroaded-4
Woman in the Window-3
I Confess-3
Desperate-3.5
Shockproof-3
The Naked Kiss-3.5
Fallen Idol-3.5

Having them in order of preference would be interesting korano. Or maybe just a top 20 or 50 Noirs? I’d like to see what you rate as your favourites amongst this bunch.

Is The Fallen Idol a noir film? Ain’t it something completely diferent? Or am I mixing up things?

I’ve seen 23 of your Noirs on your excellent list (I have also seen a few more, but I count them as Neo-Noirs). Here’s my list, in order of preference:

  1. Touch of Evil (Dir. Orson Welles) B/W 1958.
  2. The Third Man (Dir. Carol Reed) B/W 1949.
  3. The Big Sleep (Dir. Howard Hawks) B/W 1946.
  4. The Maltese Falcon (Dir. John Huston) B/W 1941.
  5. M (Dir. Fritz Lang) B/W 1931.
  6. Vertigo (Dir. Alfred Hitchcock) 1958.
  7. Out of the Past (Dir. Jacques Tourneur) B/W 1947.
  8. Sunset Boulevard (Dir. Billy Wilder) B/W 1950.
  9. The Stranger (Dir. Orson Welles) B/W 1946.
  10. The Big Heat (Dir. Fritz Lang) B/W 1953.
  11. The Big Combo (Dir. Joseph H. Lewis) B/W 1955.
  12. Laura (Dir. Otto Preminger) B/W 1944.
  13. Niagara (Dir. Henry Hathaway) 1953.
  14. The Killers (Dir. Robert Siodmak) B/W 1946.
  15. Strangers on a Train (Dir. Alfred Hitchcock) B/W 1951.
  16. Double Indemnity (Dir. Billy Wilder) B/W 1944
  17. Casablanca (Dir. Michael Curtiz) B/W 1942.
  18. Farewell My Lovely (Dir. Edward Dmytryk) B/W 1944.
  19. The Lady from Shanghai (Dir. Orson Welles) B/W 1948.
  20. Gilda (Dir. Charles Vidor) B/W 1946.
  21. The Naked City (Dir. Jules Dassin) B/W 1948.
  22. Notorious (Dir. Alfred Hitchcock) B/W 1946.
  23. In a Lonely Place (Dir. Nicholas Ray) B/W 1950.
  24. DOA (Dir. Rudolph Maté) B/W 1950.
  25. The Killing (Dir. Stanley Kubrick) B/W 1956.
  26. The Dark Corner (Dir. Henry Hathaway) B/W 1946.
  27. Where the Sidewalk Ends (Dir. Otto Preminger) B/W 1950.
  28. They Live by Night (Dir. Nicholas Ray) B/W 1949.
  29. Beyond a Reasonable Doubt (Dir. Fritz Lang) B/W 1956.
  30. Crossfire (Dir. Edward Dmytryk) B/W 1947.
  31. Brighton Rock (Dir. John Boulting) B/W 1947.
  32. The Enforcer (Dir. Raoul Walsh, Bretaigne Windust) B/W 1950.
  33. Ministry Of Fear (Dir. Fritz Lang) B/W 1944.
  34. Suspicion (Dir. Alfred Hitchcock) B/W 1941.
  35. Scarlet Street (Dir. Fritz Lang) B/W 1945.
  36. The Seventh Victim (Dir. Mark Robson) B/W 1943.
  37. The Wrong Man (Dir. Alfred Hitchcock) B/W 1956.
  38. Killer’s Kiss (Dir. Stanley Kubrick) B/W 1955.
  39. World for Ransom (Dir. Robert Aldrich) B/W 1954.
  40. Brute Force (Dir. Jules Dassin) B/W 1947.
  41. Dead Reckoning (Dir. John Cromwell) B/W 1947.
  42. Whirlpool (Dir. Otto Preminger) B/W 1949.
  43. Cloak and Dagger (Dir. Fritz Lang) B/W 1946.

There’s my favourite.

A rough list, compiled via internet only (I don’t have any reference books with me) and allowing for memory blanks (I’m prone to those - tres noir, no?). I’ve stuck with American productions, in the main, and the list is pretty much in chronological order. I tried to be fairly strict in eliminating what I considered were more straightforward crime/gangster films, and I’ve generally avoided genre crossovers, but a few of those have inevitably slipped in. So sue me.

Stranger on the Third Floor
High Sierra
The Maltese Falcon
Suspicion
The Glass Key
This Gun for Hire
Journey into Fear
The Seventh Victim
Shadow of a Doubt
Bluebeard
Double Indemnity
Laura
Ministry of Fear
Farewell, My Lovely
The Woman in the Window
Cornered
Detour
Mildred Pierce
Scarlet Street
Spellbound
The Big Sleep
The Blue Dahlia
The Chase
Cloak and Dagger
The Dark Corner
Decoy
Gilda
The Killers
The Locket
The Postman Always Rings Twice
The Strange Love of Martha Ivers
The Stranger
Boomerang
Born to Kill
Brute Force
Crossfire
Dark Passage
Dead Reckoning
Desperate
Johnny O’Clock
Kiss of Death
Out of the Past
Ride the Pink Horse
T-Men
The Big Clock
Call Northside 777
Cry of the City
Force of Evil
Key Largo
The Lady from Shanghai
The Naked City
Raw Deal
Secret Beyond the Door
The Street with No Name
They Live by Night
Act of Violence
The Big Steal
Border Incident
Criss Cross
Gun Crazy
Impact
The Reckless Moment
The Set-Up
Shockproof
The Third Man
Too Late for Tears (aka Killer Bait)
Whirlpool
White Heat
The Asphalt Jungle
D.O.A.
The Desperate Hours
In a Lonely Place
Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye
Mystery Street
Panic in the Streets
Side Street
Sunset Boulevard
Tension
Union Station
Where Danger Lives
Where the Sidewalk Ends
His Kind of Woman
The House on Telegraph Hill
The Racket
Ace in the Hole
Strangers on a Train
Angel Face
Clash by Night
Kansas City Confidential
The Narrow Margin
On Dangerous Ground
The Big Heat
The Blue Gardenia
The Hitch-Hiker
I Confess
Niagara
Pickup on South Street
Crime Wave
Human Desire
Private Hell 36
Rogue Cop
The Big Combo
House of Bamboo
Illegal
Killer’s Kiss
Kiss Me Deadly
The Night of the Hunter
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt
The Killing
While the City Sleeps
The Wrong Man
Sweet Smell of Success
Touch of Evil
Odds Against Tomorrow
Vertigo
Cape Fear
The Killers
Harper
Point Blank
Marlowe
Klute
The Friends of Eddie Coyle
The Long Goodbye
Chinatown
Farewell, My Lovely
Night Moves
Obsession
Taxi Driver
The Late Show
The Big Sleep
The Driver
Last Embrace
Body Heat
Blade Runner
Blood Simple
Tightrope
Angel Heart
Someone to Watch Over Me
Kill Me Again
Sea of Love
The Grifters
Miami Blues
Miller’s Crossing
The Two Jakes
Cape Fear
One False Move
Red Rock West
The Last Seduction
Devil in a Blue Dress
L.A. Confidential
Lost Highway
U Turn
Out of Sight
A Simple Plan
Memento
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang
The Black Dahlia

And here’s today’s top ten, not really in order of preference (except perhaps the first one) and subject to change when the wind blows in a different direction:

Out of the Past
The Maltese Falcon
The Killers (46)
Double Indemnity
The Big Sleep (46)
Farewell my lovely (44)
Touch of Evil
Kiss of Death
Point Blank
Night of the Hunter

[quote=“Stanton, post:486, topic:1786”]Is The Fallen Idol a noir film? Ain’t it something completely diferent? Or am I mixing up things?[/quote]Fallen Idol, I’d say is Noir but barely. It’s definitley like no other. It features one of Carol Reed’s trademark running sequences where a charater bolts through the expressionisticly lit streets.

A top 20 or 50? Coming right up.

  1. Big Combo
  2. Touch of Evil
  3. Out of the Past
  4. The Killing
  5. Kiss Me Deadly
  6. Night and the City
  7. The Killers
  8. Night of the Hunter
  9. Ride the Pink Horse
  10. Double Indemnity
  11. Murder, My Sweet
  12. Cape Fear
  13. Where Danger Lives
  14. On Dangerous Ground
  15. Macao
  16. The Bribe
  17. The Lady from Shanghai
  18. The Good German
  19. The Third Man
  20. Nightmare Alley

I never knew you like The Big Combo so much, or Touch of Evil; but they are all god films.

A heads-up for John (and any other UK noir fans) - Frank Borzage’s Moonrise (which gets a 5 rating by Korano, I notice) is getting a rare TV screening on Film 4 next week. I forget which day, but it’s showing at least twice in the week.

Too be honest, a 4 would be most appropriate. I was very keen on seeing the film at the time and I guess I wouldn’t accept let down.

Not to say that I was let down by it. Just that 5 star ratings for me are reserved for genre classics.

This one is interesting. Southern Gothic Noir Melodrama.

I know that feeling.

In any case, I look forward to seeing another highly regarded noir from the classic period.

I believe some people claim it is Frank Borzage’s best film too. A highly regarded director from that period.

Thanks Starblack - I’ll definatly be seeting my recorder for that one. :smiley: I’m very interrested in seeing a Frank Borzage film.

He definitley has an acute visual sense


Wow, they are impressive shots. Thanks for sharing them - are they from Moonrise?

Yes, and your welcome.

I saw Sweet Smell of Success yesterday. An absolutely awesome noir, with Tony Curtis as a PR agent working with horrifically egocentric (and incestuous?) columnist J.J. Hunsecker (Burt Lancaster), who would sell his soul to get ahead. A powerful Jazz soundtrack by Elmer Bernstein and beautiful cinematography by James Wong Howe round off this dark, dark tale of greed directed by Alexander Mackendrick, who originally started out at Ealing Studios and made the classic British black comedy The Ladykillers (1955).