Noir & Neo-Noirs

Hasn’t that film been released by Criterion? Check the site. I’m not sure.

Pepe le Moko, oh yes, beautiful film. Duvivier’s best.

If you live in Britain you can get it here:
http://www.argosentertainment.co.uk/dvd/pepe-le-moko/93604.html

or
http://hmv.com/hmvweb/simpleMultiSearch.do?searchUID=-5801499646218572771&pGroupID=0&adultFlag=false&primaryID=0&simpleSearchString=Pepe+le+Moko&btnSubmitSearch.x=32&btnSubmitSearch.y=13

I saw The Big Combo today. An excellent Film Noir with brilliant photography and good acting, especially by Lee Van Cleef as a homosexual hoodlum. A must-see.

I have seen They Live by Night. I know this is becoming predictable, but it really is an excellent Noir with great photography, and the film was also very influential as it was the first movie to have “lovers on the run from the law” syndrome.

I recently watched both Beyond a Reasonable Doubt and Crossfire. Both are very good, but I like Beyond a Reasonable Doubt slightly more.

most people don’t like Beyond… I like Crossfire myself. Haven’t seen Beyond though.

Other than Gloria Grahame, i dont care too much for CROSSFIRE. I do like THEY LIVE BY NIGHT quite a bit though. Not seen BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

I advise both of you to try and watch. It’s very bleak but complelling with a good performence from Dana Andrews.

I think the premise of this late Lang film actually goes beyond reasonable limits and becomes too contrived (and rather silly) for its own good. I prefer Lang’s not dissimilar While the City Sleeps.

I also rewatched Crossfire recently, and that holds up very well, as both noir and social critique. Robert Ryan was one of the most powerful performers in noir, whether he was playing villains, as here, or jaded anti-heroes (The Set-Up; On Dangerous Ground).

Agreed…one of my all time fave noirs.

Yep, and it has such good film score by David Raksin, who also composed Laura.

Any idea where I could get ahold of the soundtrack or even that opening song? To me that music just sums up the genre…

None at all, sorry. I doubt it’s been released on CD, but who knows…?

I saw Key Largo recently, and it was great, especially when Bogart and Robinson were together (which, as it was based on a play by Maxwell Anderson, is quite often). But I was wondering, would you class it as a Film Noir? I myself can’t decide.

Probably won’t come as too much of a surprise, but i’ve never thought of it as noir in the slightest.

Why not?

Key Largo has surely a noir feeling, contrary to many other films named in this thread.

I know, a lot of times it feels like a thriller (and a Hollywood thriller from the '40s does not automatically = Film Noir).

Which films mentioned here don’t you think are Noirs?

I think there were several Hitchcocks mentioned. Or the 3rd Man, even if it has very noirish photography. I’m sure we had talked about this before, probably at the beginning of the thread.

Hitchcock may or may not have made a few Noirs, but The Third Man is about as Noirish as you’re going to get in my opinion.