Is the Western on Its Way Back?


(Sebastian) #101

True I think. Also, the Western has long come back, just not the “classic” western. The western as a set of conventions, stylistic devices and motifs has long entered the mainstream, you can spot it in post-apocalyptic movies, in superhero flicks, in comic book adaptations, sci-fi even, and in TV shows (Westworld). And there’s always a good set of decent classic Westerns to satisfy the niche appetites (Forsaken, Janes got a Gun, The Keeping Room, True Grit, etc…). I think filmmakers just gotta keep trying at compelling stories and characters and just like very other idea out there trying to make a buck, it’s a competition for attention. The Western is not the only genre to be constantly struggling though.


(Stanton) #102

Yes, and the western must reinvent itself to become significant again, but how? Is there a new way to tell a western story, one that hasn’t done before?
The Spagies made something new out of the old, in a moment when people began to think that every western story had already been told once too often, but there was a lot of reinvention in the 60 and early 70s (also in the US westerns of course), but since the mid 70s it seems indeed that now really every possible western story had been already been told in every style, and both often enough.
Most westerns since then look only backwards. Are made in a backward looking manner.


(Sebastian) #103

yes but ironically they achieved that by trying to copy the American westerns before Leone came along and added a distinct style :slight_smile:

I don’t think all westerns since then look backwards, it’s just that they are now what we call “period pieces”, they try to be dramas set in a certain period. Open Range was fucking fantastic, but it was a period piece, a cowboy era movie.

Then there’s movies like The Proposition, or Seraphim Falls, films with psychological twists etc, and the fantastic Bone Tomahawk… I think there’s still plenty of creativity out here, people just need to go see them to reward the filmmakers with some viewership, which in turn will lead to more of them and which in turn will unearth more good ones… I have faith :slight_smile:


#104

never mind


(Stanton) #105

I said most not all.

Of course there were several individual and interesting westerns made after the 80s, but I think there was nothing in them which couldn’t had been made already in the 70s. There was a constant developing of themes and style up to the 70s, the western renewed itself permanently, enlarged what was done before, but I think this came to an end in the 70s. And since then the westerns only administer what was created before. Some do this very well, others not so much.


(Sebastian) #106

Hostiles trailer is here

http://theplaylist.net/hostiles-trailer-christian-bale-20170905/


(Sebastian) #107

This could also be interesting

http://theplaylist.net/first-look-netflix-western-godless-20170823/


(Sebastian) #108

Maybe the gals are taking over (they should)

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/culture/film/women-taking-over-westerns-tv-film-westworld-godless/


(Sebastian) #109

Sounds interesting


#110

Or super bad.


(Novecento) #111

Modern-day South African Western “Five Fingers for Marseilles”:


(Sebastian) #112

And Australia

http://theplaylist.net/sweet-country-sam-neill-review-20170920/


(Sebastian) #113

I am more and more intrigued


(Sebastian) #114

And another article in that vein


(Asa) #115

Some more on Godless, due on Netflix right in the middle of Spagvember, the silly buggers. Don’t they know we’re going to be busy?!? :slight_smile:


(Sebastian) #116

The Ballad of Lefty Brown


(Sebastian) #117

New Godless trailer


(JohnReid) #118

I sure hope so!


(Sebastian) #119

Done with the amazing Godless, and having missed out on Brimstone (will catch it on Blu), I am now looking forward to Hostiles


(Sebastian) #120

Gimme more