And God Said to Cain / E Dio disse a Caino … (Antonio Margheriti, 1970), Review


(scherpschutter) #1

Dir: Antonio Margheriti - Cast: Klaus Kinski, Peter Carsten, Marcella Michelangeli, Antonio Cantafora, Giuliano Raffaelli, Guido Lollobrigida

After ten years of forced labour, for a crime he never committed, Gary Hamilton (Klaus Kinski) is pardoned. He was framed by his former friend Acombar and betrayed by his girlfriend Maria, who now are a couple.

To be continued:

http://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/And_God_said_to_Cain_Review


(Reverend Danite) #2

I didn’t realise it’s come from A Stranger In Paso Bravo - mainly because I’ve not seen this one. But I do have it :slight_smile: and I think this could be tomorrow’s viewing in that case.
Fantastic review again scherps - and I ain’t just saying that, I’ve seen AGSTC maybe 4 times and I still learn something new from these reviews of yours - you really should be putting this stuff together … I’ll buy the book for sure.


(Phil H) #3

Let me add my compliments Scherp. I always enjoy your reviews but I think this is your best yet. Very well written indeed. Moreover, this is a film I have been meaning to see for ages and have never managed and after reading your review it has just gone to the very top of my ‘must get’ list.
Out of interest, what DVD edition did you watch?


(CactusCharlie) #4

A favourite of mine , Kinski playing against type - superb.

Dark , haunting and atmospheric make this a great, albeit different, SW.


(ENNIOO) #5

The Spaghetti Database states 1970 for this film:

http://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/E_dio_disse_a_caino

1969 is the date mentioned in the title of this thread.

Which is correct?


(alk0) #6

[quote=“ENNIOO, post:5, topic:1028”]The Spaghetti Database states 1970 for this film:

http://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/E_dio_disse_a_caino

1969 is the date mentioned in the title of this thread.

Which is correct?[/quote]
Bruckner’s mini-encyclopedia says 1969.


(scherpschutter) #7

I watched a DVDr and compared it to a recording I made on VHS some ten years ago
The VHS (French audio) still has good video quality, but is heavily cut (guess what kind of scenes were cut!), the DVDr was sent to me by someone from San Antonio and was uncut, but had rather poor video quality

I have already ordered the German DVD
It’s a must have, in the best possible version

Release date:
IMDB says it premiered on february 5th in Italy, but Giusti (who usually is very precise on these things) says 1969; Casadio has '69 too. The italian SWdb has both dates, '69 in their list of films, '70 on the film’s page …


(ENNIOO) #8

Does the Franco Cleef version use the german DVD as source print ?


(Silver Wolf) #9

Yes


(ENNIOO) #10

Thanks for the information :).


(Søren) #11

The Danes have a similar sense of humour. The original Danish title for Stranger and The Gunfighter was Borte Med Westen (Gone With The West). The Danish title for Gone With The Wind is Borte Med Blæsten which is nearly identical and rhymes with the aforementioned title.

Regarding And God Said To Cain am I the only one who noticed that one of the tracks in the soundtrack closely resembles Santa Claus Is Coming To Town? Given Kinski’s very red outfit in this movie it must be intentional and certainly hilarious :slight_smile:


(Stanton) #12

[quote=“scherpschutter, post:7, topic:1028”]I have already ordered the German DVD
It’s a must have, in the best possible version

Release date:
IMDB says it premiered on february 5th in Italy, but Giusti (who usually is very precise on these things) says 1969; Casadio has '69 too. The italian SWdb has both dates, '69 in their list of films, '70 on the film’s page …[/quote]

Bruckner opts also for 5.2.70 as release date.
But it’s correct to date the film for 69, the year of making.

The german DVD hasn’t the correct aspect ratio, it’s in 1,78:1, but nevertheless recommended.


(Reverend Danite) #13

Duly watched it and realized that I had seen it before, quite a while ago. In fact I’m pleased to have rediscovered it thanks to scherps. The end with Steffen shooting into the room from a rooftop to stop Eduardo Fajardo from escaping the fires is so well done (mirrors and all). I watched the ‘…Cain’ ending to compare and both are good but so very different in style. Steffen matches (or maybe outdoes) Kinski in a depiction of cold-hearted fixed stare revenge - but Kinski and ‘…Cain’ get a bigger budget, protracted drawn-out tension (they obviously wanted to get as much out of this scene as possible), and the arty-farty clever camera-stuff. BUT - although ASIPB is gonna always be the poorer cousin to AGSTC, it is a damn fine film - gritty, nasty, and as rotten as they come at it’s hateful core. Steffen is absolutely brilliant in this.
What confuses me is how these two films could have been made so similarly, yet are credited to different writers ???


(Reverend Danite) #14

Actually - thinking about this, altho there are some similarities and Margheriti has obviously lifted some bits from ASIPB, they are very different films (revenge ain’t gonna win awards for originality in this genre) … I suppose what is confusing is why the same names - unless some sort of homage is in order, otherwise, as sherps says - Margheriti could’ve been done for plagiarism. A mystery maybe?[quote=“Søren, post:11, topic:1028”]…Claus Is Coming To Town? Given Kinski’s very red outfit in this movie it must be intentional and certainly hilarious :)[/quote]
Santa Klaus?


(scherpschutter) #15

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Now folks, if you really wanna know what God said to me, go to

http://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/And_God_said_to_Cain_Review


(Phil H) #16

Another great review Scherp. This is a film I have been meaning to get for a long time. I really must get my arse into gear.
Can anyone recommend the best english friendly edition to buy?


(Sebastian) #17

I love this movie, it’s exactly how I like my S’ghetti: sinister, violent, atmospheric…

the German DVD unfortunately offers no English language options


(Phil H) #18

[quote=“Sebastian, post:17, topic:1028”]I love this movie, it’s exactly how I like my S’ghetti: sinister, violent, atmospheric…

the German DVD unfortunately offers no English language options[/quote]

That’s what I thought. I’m guessing Franco Cleef’s may be my best bet then?


(Sebastian) #19

as you can see in the SWDB, there’s also a brazilian letterboxed edition and an american bootleg box, both might also be an option…


(Phil H) #20

The U.S box is all fullscreens I believe, which is a turn off. The Brazilian disc may well be good but I have serious reservations about sending my credit card details to Brazil. They are probably quite kosher but I am just not comfortable with it.