50 most successful SWs

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[quote=“stanton, post:13, topic:975”]Zorro films are normally called … ähh don’t know, in Germany we are calling them “Mantel- und Degen Filme”. (Translation help needed!)

But some ot these Italian/Spain Zorro’s are indeed more westerns, but not this one.[/quote]

In Italian they’re called “cappa e spada”, in English - I think - “cloak and dagger” (but with this term sometimes spy movies are indicated too)

I think Zorro movies, just like Winnetou movies, aren’t spaghetti westerns, but we should discuss and/or review them since they’re important for the developement of the genre

(Your remark regarding TEPEPA nearly brought up the worst SD in me, Stanton!)

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I think they’re called “Swashbuckler-films” in English, films with a lot of sword fighting.

“cloak and dagger” is indeed a term for Spy movies in English, or films with a lot of intrigue :smiley:

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I have checked meanwhile. And yes, Swashbuckler is the correct term. I always had wrongly assumed that Swashbucklers were only pirate films.

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giggle, the ghosts of our glorious past

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Don’t know, as I have only the Colonel Mortimer data from 65 to 78.
But I was surprised too. Unter Geiern was in the Colonel’s box office list hidden behind it’s italian title La dove scende il sole.

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Stanton, I’ll get you more extensive data on wednesday.

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I know it was probably the most successful German Western in the USA–all because of the presence of Elke Sommer.
In fact, it is the only German Western I can remember seeing movie posters for at theaters when I was a kid!

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I agree Bill.
I have no intention of adding the Zorro movies to my SW collection either, they are not true westerns.

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What happened to SD, has he been banned from here ?
I knew Sebastian had suspended him but i’ve not been here much recently so i may have missed an announcement.

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[quote=“Chris_Casey, post:27, topic:975”]I know it was probably the most successful German Western in the USA–all because of the presence of Elke Sommer.
In fact, it is the only German Western I can remember seeing movie posters for at theaters when I was a kid![/quote]
Thanks for the Info. Didn’t knew that she was quite that star in the 60’s.

[quote=“CactusCharlie, post:28, topic:975”]I agree Bill.
I have no intention of adding the Zorro movies to my SW collection either, they are not true westerns.[/quote]
So do I. Zorro movies are something like adventure movies with costumes. For me a SW must include a Gunfight not a Swordfight. The same is with Zanna Bianca (White Fang). White Fang is more an Adventure Movie not a SW. But I can also live when smebody mentioned White Fang and Zorro as SW.

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[quote=“Paco Roman, post:30, topic:975”]Thanks for the Info. Didn’t knew that she was quite that star in the 60’s.
So do I. Zorro movies are something like adventure movies with costumes. For me a SW must include a Gunfight not a Swordfight. The same is with Zanna Bianca (White Fang). White Fang is more an Adventure Movie not a SW. But I can also live when smebody mentioned White Fang and Zorro as SW.[/quote]

There’s a similar White Fang type of movie called " Il Richiamo Del Lupo " (The Cry of the Wolf/The Great Adventure), starring Joan Collins & Jack Palance, and is a mixture of SW & Adventure .
It’s a good movie .
.

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Great

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I’ve got now more precise data about ticket prices from the Colonel, which changed the list on page 1 a bit in favourite of SWs made in the mid 70s.

Keoma is now in (the only new one), and I also added Soleil rouge, which is not exactly a Spag imo.

The 1st list was made only with data from 61, 64, 68 and 72. The rest was a guess, and it seems the inflation rate slowed down in the mid 70s (before it exploded in the early 80s).

Still missing are data for 69 and 73-75.

Average ticket prices for Italy :
64: 221
68: 305
72: 428
76: 469
81: 2 093

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For comparison purposes some of the more famous SWs:

Matalo! Canevari, Cesare 272
Sella d’argento Fulci, Lucio 432
Mannaja Martino, Sergio 625
Quanto costa morire Merolle, Sergio 659
I crudeli Corbucci, Sergio 682
Anda, muchacho, spara Florio, Aldo 686
La taglia e tua … l’uomo l’ammazzo io (El puro) Mulargia, Edoardo 719
L’ultimo killer Vari, Giuseppe 731
Black Jack Baldanello, Gianfranco 777
Un dollaro tra i denti Vanzi, Luigi 781
John il bastardo Crispino, Armando 897
Gli specialisti Corbucci, Sergio 936
Bandidos Dallamano, Massimo 952
Un minuto per pregare, un istante per morire Giraldi, Franco 952
Il grande silenzio Corbucci, Sergio 996

Navajo Joe Corbucci, Sergio 1078
Il grande duello Santi, Giancarlo 1168
Django il bastardo Garrone, Sergio 1302
E Dio disse a Caino Margheriti, Antonio 1317
Buon funerale amigos … paga Sartana Carnimeo, Giuliano 1345
Se sei vivo spara Questi, Giulio 1364
Quei disperati che puzzano di sudore e di morte Buchs, Julio 1398
Une corde, un colt Hossein, Robert 1559
Quella sporca storia nel West Castellari, Enzo G. 1579
10 000 dollari per un massacro Girolami, Romolo 1715
Requiescant Lizzani, Carlo 1715
Il pistolero dell’Ave Maria Baldi, Ferdinando 1809
E tornato Sabata … hai chiuso un’altra volta! Parolini, Gianfranco 1914
I quattro dell’ Apocalisse Fulci, Lucio 1922

Johnny Yuma Girolami, Romolo 2038
Yankee Brass, Tinto 2047
Sono Sartana, il vostro becchino Carnimeo, Giuliano 2066
Ammazzali tutti e torna solo Castellari, Enzo G. 2077
Testa t’ammazo, croce … sei morto, mi chiamano Alleluja Carnimeo, Giuliano 2092
Django spara per primo De Martino, Alberto 2214
Mille dollari sul nero Cardone, Alberto 2285
Gli uomini dal passo pesante Antonini, Alfredo 2289
Preparati la bara Baldi, Ferdinando 2299
O’Cangaceiro Fago, Giovanni 2341
Sette donne per i MacGregor Giraldi, Franco 2357
The Bounty Killer Martin, Eugenio 2439
Odio per odio Paolella, Domenico 2451
Pochi dollari per Django Castellari, Enzo G. 2488
Cipolla Colt Castellari, Enzo G. 2550
Quien sabe? Damiani, Damiano 2582
Indio Black, sai che ti dico: sei un gran figlio di … Parolini, Gianfranco 2590
Ci risiamo, vero Provvidenza? De Martino, Alberto 2592

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Minnesota Clay was 65th among the 100 most successful movies in Italy in the period August '64 - July '65.

A Fistful of Dollars was 2nd (Goldfinger on the highest step of the podium) and A Pistol for Ringo 6th.

Two Franco & Ciccio spoofs, Two Mafiamen in the Far West and A Fistful of Knuckles, were 18th and 22nd respectively.

29th Five Thousand Dollars On One Ace
41st Winnetou und der Bärenjäger a.k.a. Unter Geiern
59th Stranger in Sacramento
65th Minnesota Clay
67th The Seven From Texas
86th One Against All a.k.a. Son of Jesse James
90th Old Shatterhand

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Replying to this now just to bump it to the top.
@Admin Can we get it made sticky in some way so we can easily find it again in future?

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:+1:

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If pinned or sticky means, this thread should always stay at the top of the Town Hall section, it does not. Neither does the Top 20 thread.

How comes?

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It should be pinned there unless u unpinned it for yourself…