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No, not at all. A director (or other artist) isn’t a cnt just because I don’t like him. But the ones who crow “I don’t care; let them hate, they’re still going to see the movie!” ARE cnts though, IMO. Massive c*nts. But, as I said, I’ll be less abrasive if it offends.

Bay’s action scenes aren’t going for a confusing aesthetic. That’s a cop out. He’s just all over the place.

Here’s a three minute piece of Bay tripe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kJXt2WnWz4 If you can tell me what’s happening I’d be glad to know, because in attempting to follow it I just found it to be a camera-twirling pile of old sh… sorry, I meant I just found it to be confusing. :wink: Here’s my take on those three minutes (which felt like twenty minutes, tbh):


[size=8pt]Right, a robot’s ordered Sam to get to the building. Move! Off he runs, away from sexy girlie who’s name escapes me. Cut to a soldier shouting “HIT IT!” in an unspecified direction, at an unspecified target. Lot of explosion, in the middle of which is a robot. Good robot? Bad robot? Cut to: “Cover fire!” yells a yellow robot, twirling about with another robot as they fire into the background at nothing. Is that other robot (not the yellow one) the robot that told Sam to get to the building, or the robot being shot at by the soldier? Or both? Or neither? Is that three different robots, or two, or all one robot? No matter. Anyway, Oh, he keeps doing roly-polys. Oh, cut back to Sam, running. Another robot (that same robot, again?) says, “Watch out!”, picks up a car, gets shot. A helicopter robot flies past. Cut to Sexy Girlie (Fck, what’s her name?) as she attaches a winch to something, says, “I’m going, I’m going!” Cut to another robot firing randomly into the foreground. Cut to another robot (can’t see him; just a bit of leg and arm) firing and lurching a bit. People are stooped, running. If the robot’s firing that way, aren’t those people running toward the trouble? No matter. Cut to… Ah! Here’s Optimus Prime! I know that one. SMASH! Through some carelessly placed bins. Brilliant! And tyres screeching into a - what was that? A 180? a 270? A full 360? which way is he facing? Doesn’t matter, now he’s transforming AND spinning, and the camera’s spinning around him. And around him. And around and around him. I suppose in fairness they need to make a big deal of this since it’s the movie’s first “transforming robot” moment… oh hang on, no it’s not; it’s the 487th transforming robot moment. Incredibly, I’m both bored AND nauseous following this unnecessarily dizzying sequence. Still, let’s plow on… where were we? Ah yes, Prime is looking down into the upturned camera as he growls “Megatron!” at a robot many storeys above him, on top of a roof. Oh, AND about a mile away. Megatron flies into Prime, they swoop about for a bit, crashing into this building and that. Oop, straight through a building. Crash, roll, fisticuffs on the floor. Bodyslam, clap hands into a long gun apparatus, Prime shoots Megatron, Megatron shoots Prime into a building. Then he falls out of the building. Last (checks) 56 seconds have been relatively coherent. Naff, but coherent. Oh, cut to Sam running again, and I’m uncertain again. A robot is running with him. "Keep moving, Sam! Even though I’m a fcking car and I could get you from A to B in a fraction of the time, you keep running, sunshine!" Cut to a robot skidding to a halt, and scything at the floor for some reason. Now an explosion, now a car through a window. Is he fighting? Agitated? Wire loose? Schizophrenic? Goodie? Baddie? No time for that, here’s Sam running again. Oh, a big plane robot’s in his way. Megatron? Another one? Oh, cut to cars blowing up all around another robot (or the same robot?), and cars flying down the street, and back to the robot with cars blowing up around him as the yellow robot goes, “NOOOO!” like Darth Vader at the end of Episode III along with roly-poly robot and they engage the robot with the cars blowing up around him. Sam’s crouched - beneath them, is that? Hard to tell… bit more roly polys, other robot turns into a plane and flies off. Had the fight finished? Did he get Sam? No. Kill those other two? No. Was he just trying to run from them? What was that skirmish in aid of? No time for that, Sam’s off again. And here’s… Megatron, I think, literally out of nowhere and then down through the sky, giving it “Give me the CUBE, boy!” Sam’s running but that robot’s not behind him, he’s… somewhere else? Round the block? I dunno… cars crashing into him, all moving (I guess) toward the carnage. He falls, and then… electricity! Electricity, surging through everything. Now EVERYTHING’S a transformer! How do they know what side they’re on, or who they’re supposed to be shooting at, or why? Or are all transformers who are born from the ELECTRICITY inherently bad? I dunno…[/size]


;D Oh, Stanters! Eleven films this man has made, and that’s as much as you’ve got in arguing against the opinion that he hasn’t made a good film yet? I think you’ve confirmed my take on him there, fella.

(chokes on coffee) WHAT?!? Now you’re just being argumentative! I’m going to let that go, and put it down to you eating a bad clam for dinner this evening, or something. ;D

I’ll be honest, I wasn’t aware that he had a bad reputation back in the day. I’m guessing that he was largely dismissed by Hollywood as a genre director in a hack ripoff industry (inasmuch as Italian cinema had a fondness for churning out cheap and cheerful facsimilies of whatever was trendy at the time)? The Hollywood machine chewed Leone up and spat him out. Cut Once Upon a Time in America to shreds for financial reasons; to get more sittings of it into the cinemas. Money first, story last. Bay IS the Hollywood machine; every tool under the sun at his disposal, exclusively makes films with no artistic integrity whatsoever. Money first, story last.

;D Ooh, I thought that had slipped by you!

See? Deeply attractive, as you said.

Michael Bay Doesn’t Care Who Hates ‘Transformers’ - IMDb

so you expect him to lie? :wink: No, at least he is honest .

Bay's action scenes aren't going for a confusing aesthetic. That's a cop out. He's just all over the place.

Here’s a three minute piece of Bay tripe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kJXt2WnWz4 If you can tell me what’s happening I’d be glad to know, because in attempting to follow it I just found it to be a camera-twirling pile of old sh… sorry, I meant I just found it to be confusing. :wink: Here’s my take on those three minutes (which felt like twenty minutes, tbh):
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Yeah, it’s ok, well made from a technical point of view. Actually better than nearly all bigger SW shoot-outs, much better than the river ambush and the cemetery shoot-out in FOD, which is from a director I adore.

And the cutting is not that fast, pretty slow compared to Quantum of solace. And this is one of the best action scenes I ever saw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfYC_CBNtiM

;D Oh, Stanters! Eleven films this man has made, and that's as much as you've got in arguing against the opinion that he hasn't made a good film yet? I think you've confirmed my take on him there, fella.

Not really, as I saw only 3 film by the Bay. The Rock was boring, Transformers was quite ok and entertaining (but I fell asleep when the last half an hour action started, whatever that says you), and The Island

But I’m not the one to defend Bay as I do not care for his films (remember?). But I have an intelligent friend who really likes his stuff, and he likes otherwise all kind of films.

Actually I’ ve only watched one of Bay film from start to end and it was The Rock, (on TV), all of his other films seem to be in TV prime time hour from time to time, Armageddon mostly.
So normally I don’t watch Bay’s films, only small bits, I don’t like Von Trier films, but I dont call those guys names, mostly cause I don’t know them and they aren’t in front of me, and is not worth it, for “artistics” divergences, normally I prefer to speak of the things I like.

Anyway I don’t think that in the future Bay films will get the same attetion as Leone’s films get today, at least in the same way. I can only guess but Leone’s films got some flack when they were released because they were out of the ordinary, they were diferente from the usual norm.

Bay films all but that, they are made to be predictable. They cost loads of money, so there are intense market studies, target viewers and so on, so when those products got to the cinemas, they have a specific target viewer.

In the end, those kind of productions give work to a lot of people, and by now are the main reason why there still cinemas open to public.

Rampage: Capital Punishment

Trailer:

Michael Fassbender in a western. From the looks on the trailer, it seems to me it was a quickie made and done on the cheap. I could be wrong though!
Slow West Official Trailer #1 (2015) - Michael Fassbender Western Thriller HD - YouTube

Actually looks promising to me

Yep. promising.

Shot in New Zealand arrh Middle Earth?

The Hateful Eight is still a ways off, but entertainment weekly had this cover.

There’s a few more pics here. Movie News | EW.com

Some fine facial hair on Kurt Russell there. Interesting that he is going to be out in two westerns in quick succession. Bone Tomahawk, the other one, looks like a Western / Horror mash up.

We can only hope for the best.

Not a fan of Adam Sandler, but this looks funny. I’ll probably watch it someday with a few beers. :smile: