El Puro / La taglia è tua … l’uomo l’ammazzo io (Edoardo Mulargia, 1969)

You can check it out under the _histor_y link in the actions meny on the film’s page…

Yes, that certainly is a possibility to consider. In any case, Fiorini and Woods contributed more to El Puro than just being actors, as Phil Hardcastle’s conversations with them make clear. This is corroborated by Kevin Grant in his book Any Gun Can Play: “Woods […] had a hand in shaping the film’s story along with co-star Marco Fiorini […].” (p. 157)
For those who read German, my thoughts on the movie and its different versions:
http://nerdistan.at/der-reine/
http://nerdistan.at/der-mit-den-komantschen-pfeift/

Thanks! JonathanCorbett made the edits.

Question is now is the Portuguese version a Pal version? I assume so, as Wiki says that Portugal was a Pal country (maybe our member Topo van confirm this).
The 102 min version is a Pal version, which adds up to ca 107 min theeatrical.
These 109 min would then add up to a little over 113 min.

Now it would be interesting to know what the Portuguese version adds to the known versions?

And it would be still interesting to know the runtime of the Venice Film Festival version.

The scene starts earlier with some unimportant shots. But I love this unusual first shot, which looks like it starts in the middle of a scene (which it does). This is a perfect opening for this unconventional film.

From the top 20 thread:

Ok, and from what video source(s) is that version taken?

I have today watched both the Portuguese and the English versions simultaneously. It seemed to me they were the same, except for the 8 minute’s sequence mentioned before. Leaving that out, the English version would be 86 minutes, while the Portuguese, covering the same scenes, is 101 minutes. So I think the Portuguese could not be a PAL version (it’s by the way currently on YouTube), and there must be some minor cuts here and there throughout the English version.

It’s the French Gladiateur Films release (PAL).

But that’s only the 86 min version. You said you watched 109 min with English audio. You meant probably that you watched 109 min at a whole, but not completely in English, and not from one 109 version.

Better than the French DVD was a 94 min (Pal) VHS Rip in 1,78:1 and in English. Also a 86 min 2,35:1 version exists, which also misses the complete part after the stagecoach scene.
And I have a composite version of the 94 min VHS with added scenes from an Italian TV version (weak picture quality), that’s the 102 min (Pal) version I mentioned.

You are right: Portugal and Brazil are both PAL countries, but for the 101 min version with English credits available on YouTube the file properties say 29,97-fps.

From Robert Woods and Marc Fiorini on El Puro
Meanwhile, Woods had plans for the script beyond its original form. This was why he had requested Mulargia for the project initially. Because, as he puts it, Mulargia as a director “was more malleable”.

But we don’t know if the screenwriter, on set and playing an important role in the movie, was ‎just as malleable… :wink:

If you didn’t notice it immediately after I did the editing… :relaxed:

Yes, that’s what I meant. What will 101 minutes be in PAL? 97 minutes or something like that?

I noticed the editing but didn’t know who did it. I wasn’t aware that you could look up the page’s “history.” Now I know. :relaxed:

That’s right, 97 minutes.

In which the start of the scene with Mario Brega, Turi Campochiaro and the girl looks cut.


The full technical specifications page on IMDb reports this wrong film length derived from Anica data and in addition a 90min runtime despite the fact that 2750 meters are equivalent to 100 minutes!

I compared the first scene of the Portuguese version with the widescreen version. It seems the secret of runtime of the Portuguese is that it simply runs much too slow. When the credit sequence starts there is already a time gap of 10 sec. And the voices sound very deep cause of that slowness.

I think it’s exactly the same version as the 86 min version. Worthless …

I have also checked again. It seems that 10 minutes of the English version corresponds to more or less 11:48 minutes of the Portuguese. I haven’t seen the 86 min version, but it seems you are right. So that leaves me with a 94 min PAL version, which will correspond to something like 98 min, if I have understood this PAL business right. I don’t know where that version comes from.

I doubt that there is any difference. So you still watched the 98 min version, and the longest we got is between 106 and 107 min. But none of the extra min contains any really new material. There are only scenes longer running, and I think so far the shorter version is the preferable one.
The only real worthwile scene is the longer part in the store, in which we see Aldo Berti newly dressing up, in a blue woman’s skirt, which he wears for the rest of the film, only that without that scene nobody realises that it is a woman’s skirt. And of course without that part of the scene there is a continuity error.
The first scene is now nearly 2 min longer. Well filmed, but as I said we lose this magnificent opening.

I edited my post while you were answering :slight_smile: No, I haven’t spotted any differences. I have checked the English version for every ten minutes, and the running time of the corresponding part of the Portuguese one, and it varies from 11:36 to 11:55 minutes. Anyway, it was a real interesting to see the 98 min version. It’s hard to understand that this film still doesn’t have a decent DVD release.

This version comes from this Yugoslavian VHS: OFDb - El Puro (1969) - Video: Golden Video

The picture quality is according to that site better than the French and the Brazilian DVDs. Which means that both are very poor sub VHS standard.

Is the conclusion (that I find annoyingly hurried) slightly longer after the shot is fired?

Are these two versions of La taglia è tua … identical?
http://www.cultaction.com/film-catalog/spaghetti-western/el-puro-dvd-1969/
http://rarelust.com/the-rewards-yours-the-mans-mine-1969/
I’m not sure whether it’s appropriate to post the links here on the forum. If not, please let me know and I’ll delete them.